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milias · Jul 19, 2006, 07:32 PM // 19:32

Don't hurt yourself there, Arya

Besides dropping from HoH chests, they also drop from quest reward chests in FoW and UW.

Vampiric Corruption · Jul 27, 2006, 08:38 PM // 20:38

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Originally Posted by quanzong

Not really true, I tested it with Crystalline req 13 and this Purple Longsword req 8, both same damage, neither have damage modifer or penetration %, and same hilt, and when I was doing dmg agaisnt a mob with my crystalline i was doing 16 - 22 dmg (non criticals) and when I tested the long sword it was doing 15 - 19, I killed the same mob type 7 times with each sword.

Now either high req does more dmg or different skin types mean some do more dmg then others. I was using the same swordmanship 13 durning the test for both weapons.

The damage you do depends on how high your attributes are set and also different skins can also do different damage.

Chief · Jul 27, 2006, 09:40 PM // 21:40

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Originally Posted by quanzong

Not really true, I tested it with Crystalline req 13 and this Purple Longsword req 8, both same damage, neither have damage modifer or penetration %, and same hilt, and when I was doing dmg agaisnt a mob with my crystalline i was doing 16 - 22 dmg (non criticals) and when I tested the long sword it was doing 15 - 19, I killed the same mob type 7 times with each sword.

Now either high req does more dmg or different skin types mean some do more dmg then others. I was using the same swordmanship 13 durning the test for both weapons.

This part of your statement is confusing:

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Originally Posted by quanzong

... neither has damage modifer or penetration %, and same hilt, ...

Maybe it was the poor writing/spelling that confused me

, anyhow I am going to assume what you are saying is:

1. Both of your swords has no Weapon Modifier and has not been CUSTOMIZED.
2. Both of your swords has no Weapon Upgrade (Hilt or Pommel)

If what you are saying is true, you must have the "magical weapons" of Guild Wars and is contradicting what Alex Weekes said about weapon requirements.
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...53&postcount=8

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Originally Posted by Alex 'GhostRaptor' Weekes

Weapon requirement works as follows:

1. If you meet or exceed the requirement, you will deal damage within the range listed.

2. If you do not meet the requirement, you will deal damage within a range not specified (though very similar to a 'starter' weapon).

Also note that your attribute has a passive effect on damage and the likelihood of critical hits (and thus more damage) independent of the weapon requirement. The requirement sets the 'base' damage range the game uses, which is then modified by the passive effect to reach the final damage actually dealt.

As for the difference between swords and axes ... a max damage sword and a max damage axe should, over time, deal roughly the same average damage. Ignoring criticals and other modifying variables, a max damage sword has an average damage of 18.5, while a max damage axe averages 17 (using simple math, not sure if those figures are 100% correct within the game engine). The axe has a larger variation, and thus an axe deals more damage on a critical hit. As you correctly pointed out, though, one of the biggest differences is in the skills available and the effects of those skills.

Think about this, though ... we know that a higher attribute score makes criticals hits more likely. So when comparing damage output between an axe and a sword, at low attribute values the difference is probably negligible. But at higher values the axe will probably be dealing more damage because of the more frequent critical hits. Also, an axe works better with Wild Blow than a sword does (because of the higher critical on an axe).

There's a lot to think about when it comes to deciding which weapon to use .
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Guild Wars Community Relations
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Maybe the game physics are different in your version of the game or it could be the Cray Supercomputer that you are using to play Guild Wars

makosi · Jul 28, 2006, 08:25 AM // 08:25

FoW, UW and HoH reward chests. Not chests you have to pay for. Personally, I think that the crystalline sword situation is all one big bug and they should drop from monsters or Anet are making the most exclusive and best looking weapons for their beloved class, the warrior.

Pho · Aug 06, 2006, 05:13 AM // 05:13

I prefer HoH...lol you get fame and sometimes a crystaline,but ive only gotten sigils so far

Priest Of Sin · Aug 06, 2006, 05:17 AM // 05:17

ahh, crystaline swords. I've only ever had ONE drop, it was in FOW, from the chest in front of Rastigan after the first quest. I nearly shat myself...

Apocrypha · Aug 06, 2006, 05:24 AM // 05:24

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I have just found out that higher req does more damage, but I think it said something bad about req 13, so I kinda got a punked crystalline max damage lol.

Wrong wrong wrong!

I've played for 14 months now, only ever seen the presearing crystalline and I sold that one for 1k!

KamikazeChicken · Aug 06, 2006, 06:45 AM // 06:45

Crystallines also drop in the southern shiverpeaks from mobs. I've been around to see it happen, but most drop from keyless chests.

The Herbalizer · Aug 06, 2006, 09:48 AM // 09:48

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Originally Posted by KamikazeChicken

Crystallines also drop in the southern shiverpeaks from mobs. I've been around to see it happen, but most drop from keyless chests.

Stop lying. No they dont. I guess this is another one of your far fetched stories like how you own a 15>50 crystalline sword yet make threads on wtb forum wanting cheap shields as you cant afford anything good.

Dante the Warlord · Aug 06, 2006, 04:49 PM // 16:49

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Originally Posted by quanzong

I have just found out that higher req does more damage, but I think it said something bad about req 13, so I kinda got a punked crystalline max damage lol.

What...no thats not true...low req. is better...why do you think more ppl buy low req. swords O_o the extra points you have go into your damage factor. I don't know where yuou heard that comment, if so then tell me where and who.

Retribution X · Aug 06, 2006, 05:03 PM // 17:03

If anyone here lies again, I swear...

Crystaline swords have been confirmed to drop from ANY unlocked chest. P-E-R-I-O-D... That's it... that's all... nothing else...

Tincanbilly0 · Aug 06, 2006, 05:49 PM // 17:49

Erm... It's funny how people claim they "KNOW" that crystallines only come from unopened chests, but that is only because they never heared of them dropping elsewhere.

I can tell you for a fact that the do drop from certain creatures in the southern shiverpeaks as me and a friend did dual runs there and he got one.

As for which creature it was... i'll not tell, thats a secret for just me and mates.

Arkantos · Aug 06, 2006, 05:55 PM // 17:55

^^ Post a screenie of a monster dropping it. You can block the monsters name since its such an uber leet secret. Until then, nobody believes you.

Tincanbilly0 · Aug 06, 2006, 06:08 PM // 18:08

Next time me or a friend gets one i will.

Hidden in the Mist · Aug 06, 2006, 06:10 PM // 18:10

Riiight.

fiery · Aug 06, 2006, 06:18 PM // 18:18

Agreed, if you won't share don't post on the matter.

The Herbalizer · Aug 06, 2006, 06:30 PM // 18:30

If I had the power to ban someone for saying such complete crap I would. It is the biggest waste of server space and you are spreading false information which is lies.

Retribution X · Aug 07, 2006, 12:36 AM // 00:36

Ok, Lets set the facts. I have farmed over 4300 hours on my monk. Not a single crysteline dropped from an enemy...

I've farmed over 1000 hours on my warrior, never had one drop from anywhere but an unlocked chest.

I've cleared the shiverpeaks a few hundred times. Including Ice dome. Never had one drop.

Unless you have proof, Nobody will believe you.

I'm not saying they can't, just there is Absolutly no evidance of it happening.

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Originally Posted by Tincanbilly0

Erm... It's funny how people claim they "KNOW" that crystallines come from unopened chests, but that is only because they never have seen them drop anywhere else.

Fixed some major errors in there. We HEAR lots of crap about it. But nobody EVER seems to post a screenie.

Post a screenie, and I will believe. (Unless it proves to be fake.)

danielcons · Aug 07, 2006, 08:01 AM // 08:01

southen shiverpeack chest i get a purple one opening a tons of chests

*lemming* · Aug 07, 2006, 08:10 AM // 08:10

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Originally Posted by danielcons

southen shiverpeack chest i get a purple one opening a tons of chests

Orly?

Prove it.

Jul 19, 2006, 07:32 PM // 19:32	#121
milias Grotto Attendant Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Defected back to America Profession: Me/E	Don't hurt yourself there, Arya Besides dropping from HoH chests, they also drop from quest reward chests in FoW and UW.

Jul 28, 2006, 08:25 AM // 08:25	#124
makosi Grotto Attendant Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: "Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff. Guild: Requirement Begins With R [notQ] Profession: Me/	FoW, UW and HoH reward chests. Not chests you have to pay for. Personally, I think that the crystalline sword situation is all one big bug and they should drop from monsters or Anet are making the most exclusive and best looking weapons for their beloved class, the warrior.

Aug 06, 2006, 05:13 AM // 05:13	#125
Pho Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Maryland Profession: W/E	I prefer HoH...lol you get fame and sometimes a crystaline,but ive only gotten sigils so far

Aug 06, 2006, 05:17 AM // 05:17	#126
Priest Of Sin Jungle Guide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Sitting upon Kerrigan's Throne. Guild: Live For The Swarm [ZERG] Profession: Me/N	ahh, crystaline swords. I've only ever had ONE drop, it was in FOW, from the chest in front of Rastigan after the first quest. I nearly shat myself...

Aug 06, 2006, 06:45 AM // 06:45	#128
KamikazeChicken Desert Nomad Join Date: Aug 2005 Profession: Mo/	Crystallines also drop in the southern shiverpeaks from mobs. I've been around to see it happen, but most drop from keyless chests.

Aug 06, 2006, 05:03 PM // 17:03	#131
Retribution X Desert Nomad Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Check behind you again. Profession: N/	If anyone here lies again, I swear... Crystaline swords have been confirmed to drop from ANY unlocked chest. P-E-R-I-O-D... That's it... that's all... nothing else...

Aug 06, 2006, 05:49 PM // 17:49	#132
Tincanbilly0 Academy Page Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: England Guild: We Are The Samurai Pizza Cats [MEOW]	Erm... It's funny how people claim they "KNOW" that crystallines only come from unopened chests, but that is only because they never heared of them dropping elsewhere. I can tell you for a fact that the do drop from certain creatures in the southern shiverpeaks as me and a friend did dual runs there and he got one. As for which creature it was... i'll not tell, thats a secret for just me and mates.

Aug 06, 2006, 05:55 PM // 17:55	#133
Arkantos The Greatest Join Date: Feb 2006 Profession: W/	^^ Post a screenie of a monster dropping it. You can block the monsters name since its such an uber leet secret. Until then, nobody believes you.

Aug 06, 2006, 06:08 PM // 18:08	#134
Tincanbilly0 Academy Page Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: England Guild: We Are The Samurai Pizza Cats [MEOW]	Next time me or a friend gets one i will.

Aug 06, 2006, 06:10 PM // 18:10	#135
Hidden in the Mist Banned Join Date: May 2006	Riiight.

Aug 06, 2006, 06:18 PM // 18:18	#136
fiery Banned Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: maryland Guild: InYurFace Gaming [IYF] Profession: R/	Agreed, if you won't share don't post on the matter.

Aug 06, 2006, 06:30 PM // 18:30	#137
The Herbalizer <3 Ecto Join Date: Jul 2005	If I had the power to ban someone for saying such complete crap I would. It is the biggest waste of server space and you are spreading false information which is lies.

Aug 07, 2006, 08:01 AM // 08:01	#139
danielcons Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Apr 2006 Guild: NOKU Profession: W/	southen shiverpeack chest i get a purple one opening a tons of chests